No Respect

Splash One · Elusive Crow

No Respect

nhcrowshooter · Molted Crow

I did not realize it was a video that would play when clicked on until you mentioned it here. I thought it was a poor picture. Clubbing a coyote to death is not shocking, I am sure many trappers do similiar, it also pretty instaneous. The odd part is why and how did it get in the back of his truck, what was the point of keeping it alive there? It is one thing for hunters or trappers to see such things but it is another for the non-hunting public. When I worked for my state wildlife agency it was estimated that 10% of the population is pro hunting and 10% anti-hunting with 80% not giving it much thought or caring one way of the other. The question is does posting such a video in a public place sway somebody in the 80% to become more supportive of hunting/trapping or less supportive. I think we all know the answer. We don't need more people against us right or wrong.

Splash One · Elusive Crow

nhcrowshooter wrote:
I did not realize it was a video that would play when clicked on until you mentioned it here. I thought it was a poor picture. Clubbing a coyote to death is not shocking, I am sure many trappers do similiar, it also pretty instaneous. The odd part is why and how did it get in the back of his truck, what was the point of keeping it alive there? It is one thing for hunters or trappers to see such things but it is another for the non-hunting public. When I worked for my state wildlife agency it was estimated that 10% of the population is pro hunting and 10% anti-hunting with 80% not giving it much thought or caring one way of the other. The question is does posting such a video in a public place sway somebody in the 80% to become more supportive of hunting/trapping or less supportive. I think we all know the answer. We don't need more people against us right or wrong.

Yeah it was obvious to me that he got a good whack on the yotes head.. what was apauling was the camera man laughing at the yote after it was whacked, and how the "hunter" then jumped in front of the camera with a big grin on his face acting like a jackass...

To me, it shows little respect for the animal, and I suppose "unsportsman like conduct"... what was worse... he offered no details about the kill... I feel there were many other ways to have shot this video and allowed us to still see the thumping of the yote...

I got this feeling like the yote was much less important to these men then the antics that were portrayed for the sheer laughter of people online..

and not that this really matters... but that yote had to be less then a year old.. if it had found it's way into the back of the truck on it's own...why not just flush it out and let it go.. or flush it like a pigeon then shoot it.... I would have enjoyed that much more then watching two knuckleheads brain a yote in their driveway.

Gary · Dances With Crows

I agree with NH. The anti's are after us hard enough without fueling the fire with such crap as this. As a little boy my father always said "son, you reap what you sow". As conservationist first and hunters second, this should be priority.

Splash One · Elusive Crow

Gary wrote:
I agree with NH. The anti's are after us hard enough without fueling the fire with such crap as this. As a little boy my father always said "son, you reap what you sow". As conservationist first and hunters second, this should be priority.

I know.... I'm not PC... most times I mean well... it just comes out abrasive... it's who I am.. biggrin confuse

VelCrow · Baby Crow

When i used to go trapping with my cousin (very well known trapper in northern maine, one of the most successful), when we came upon a fox we would club it. It was nothing to really laugh or be happy about, it was just how it needed to be done. You club is and while its completely knocked out you kneel on its lungs and pretty much crush it while its unconscious. We always made sure it was knocked out completely not just to be humane but also for safety. It was done this way because fox are very VERY notorious for suddenly disappearing from the back of the truck after you shot it. For some reason its just fox that will actually have no heartbeat, no nerves moving, nothing....then 20 minutes down the road it suddenly runs off when you're not looking. They will wait for you to check a trap and it'll take off. Smart creatures but the only way to be sure its dead is to do like I said above, that way even if it would have been able to kickstart back alive in the back of the truck, its chest is crushed so it can't and stays dead. Much more humane than letting it run off with bulletholes in it and may die somewhere in the woods. Either way is no laughing matter. Coyotes for the most part stay dead after you shoot em, since they should be shot in the top of the head, with the .22 cal bullet exiting their jaw. Quick, humane, pelt has one tiny hole in the top of the head, but still no laughing matter. Don't see how people could laugh at clubbing a coyote. Its ok to be joyous for trapping one, but no one should be joyous for the clubbing part or shooting part, especially the way they look at you in the trap the same way your dog looks at you at home waiting for table scraps.